Originally by: Steini OFSI

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The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.

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Originally by: Steini OFSI

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The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.

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Originally by: Strategos

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Where was the carriers support? Oh that's right, you had none, because you think carriers should be able to kill anything solo. Maybe if you had activated triage you'd have known you are now immune to EW and those simple frigates would have been dead, or you know, you could of had the support that is supposed to be with you do it, but alas, you don't think carriers should need support and it should be able to pwn solo.

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Originally by: Steini OFSI

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The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.

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Originally by: LordVodka

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strategos you really have no idea what your talking about. I both fly carriers and battleships, and i can EASILY tank 90% of the carriers fielded. You should realize with good skills most fighter loads do a mere 900 dps, this can easily be tanked in a drake even.

you need to understand that the fighters wont hit for max dps cause of tracking sig etc. So when a fighter load does a 900 dps on paper it's like 700 on the field and easily tankable by any bs pilot who has a clue.

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Originally by: Steini OFSI

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The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.

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Originally by: Aladdin InSane

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Edited by: Aladdin InSane on 21/10/2007 22:57:31
Anyone else get the feeling that this young dev,
is getting a right bollocing?

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Originally by: Steini OFSI

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The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.

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Originally by: Cadela Fria

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I strongly urge people not to attack Zulupark, as he's only the messenger, and I'm sure this isn't his idea alone.
Plus, I really think it's the idea none of us like, not him.

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Originally by: Steini OFSI

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The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.

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Originally by: Tar Ecthelion

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I can see the understanding behind it, but a carrier does need to have some offense to fight with if cought alone somewhere.
What we really need is more smaller anti-capital ships, cost about the same as a tier 3 battleship with only one design in mind, to lock down and take out capital ships.
Even I get fed up hearing about carriers and motherships ganking gates in low sec, give me a ship deisgned to take em out and maybe they might not be so brave as to gank n00bs and haulers all day in a multi billion isk ship.

I feel sorry for Zulupark to be honest, he's only said its being considered and wanted to know what everyone's feeling were on it, but all he's had off a lot of you is abuse and smack. Let him take a look through this thread, read the contructive comments, ignore the abusive ones and hopefully something good will come of it all.

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Originally by: Steini OFSI

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The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.

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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia

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Verone gets a cookie

Also it would help if people could try to look passed their own bias when they reply with constructive criticism.

Takk


PS for the right bribe I can slap, kick or throw stuff at him because he sits right beside me

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Originally by: Steini OFSI

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The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.

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Originally by: Kagura Nikon

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Originally by: oniplE

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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia

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Also it would help if people could try to look passed their own bias when they reply with constructive criticism.

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So because 99.5% of all replies here are against this change, it must be because they are biased? Come on..

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maybe because its obviosu that 90% of those negative answeres are form carrier and MS pilots that like to do exaclty what CCP want to prevent beign done? its not exaclty liek CCP expected any other type of answere form those people.

I got an alt few monhts ago just to play with capitals, because today this is CApital Online. Bought the books and even so I am VERY happy that capital online will die and don 't care for the time and isk I placed on it, because i Want fun on this game, adn capital online ruins all the fun.

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Originally by: Steini OFSI

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The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.

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Originally by: Eleana Tomelac

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Few thoughts :
-Forcing people to do something is bad, you need to encourage them to do what you want.

=> Instead of adding a hard limit on fighters controlled by carriers/moms, add a bonus to the damage/speed/anything of the fighters while being delegated. As it will be more efficient, people will delegate fighters to ensure optimal efficiency.

=>To ensure people don't continue using all fighters on their own, the fighters can receive a malus while not delegated (on same stats).

Then, it won't be too much of hassle to launch all, engage a target, and finally you can delegate group per group, not loosing precious fighting time to launch 5 by five and to delegate each before being able to launch more.
This also removes the problems about what fighters do when the mate you delegated the fighters to dies. And this allows the carrier/mom pilot to either concentrate his attention on logistic or on fighter control (at lower efficiency, but still a good one).

The result is exactly what you wanted : the carrier/mom efficiency is based more on its support fleet than its direct control. Drone loving gangmates (because they need people to care about them, they're expensive but very vulnerable) will be the new friends of the carrier/mom pilots.

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